Rich white men are doomed, get used to it. You had power for centuries; you blew it. You have the empathy of a maggot. Too bad your Trump boy turned out to be an idiot criminal. So much for your political judgement. Where is the abject apology?
Interesting. I'd heard your name before but never as somebody who is so unhinged - have you always been this way?
Anyway, setting aside the vileness of your objectives you are fatally wrong on tactics and strategy. Expression of weakness coming down the stretch, like dumping one's candidate and grasping about for another, only breaks the morale of your own side and encourages the aggression of the enemy - the anti-trump coalition won't break up until it's had its fill of dunking on trump, whether he's still on the ticket or not. As obl once said when people see a strong horse and a weak horse, they prefer the strong horse. And most republicans will rightly see the betrayal of trump as a betrayal of themselves. If you want to ensure a 400+ EV loss by all means dump trump now. If you want to claim biden doesn't really have a mandate your only choice is to ride trump to the bitter end and hope you can keep things close, or spin events effectively.
And clearly you haven't thought your strategy all the way through. Suppose by some evil miracle you managed to get pence elected, while breaking the morale of the gop. By 2024 you would be out of power in the executive branch and both houses of congress*, and your nightmare scenario would be even more likely. If you fear biden, think how much more you should fear the next democrat, chosen by millenials rather than boomers! Trumpism has rendered both sides more hostile to compromise, and further defiance on your part will only provoke further assertiveness by your enemies. DC and puerto rico, which would have languished indefinitely without a trump presidency, are going to become states within the next 8 years because of him. Democrats who used to be amenable to some level of immigration enforcement (think of all the immigrants obama locked up) will take the "defund them" position that trump prompted re: domestic law enforcement and carry it over to immigration enforcement, where it will likely have greater success. You could have followed karl rove's permanent majority strategy, accepted an immigration compromise and waited for nativeborn latinos to join your coalition, which they naturally would have done without your interference, and had long-term immigration restrictions. But you put that option off the table when you reached for a maximalist strategy.
The only way your strategy works for the long haul is if, accepting david frum's dichotomy, you choose squarely to abandon democracy rather than give up power and establish a dictatorship - accepting your premises your strategy fails if the dems ever come back into power. Having seen some of your work, mickey, I'm now confident that when the time comes you will embrace dictatorship. For that, you need someone like trump.
*Incidentally you can forget about retaining the senate this year. The AZ/CO/ME/MT races are all guaranteed flips at this point thanks to the qualities of their respective candidates, regardless of how things unfold nationally. The senate is actually more likely to flip than the white house at this point.
You are underestimating how much America currently hates ALL Republicans--esp. Senators. Each and every one are seen as "enablers"
And as the death count goes up in the states that opened on a political whim, and when everyone knows that those number are deflated, Republicans will just continue to lose.
Yup, four years of Trump have been just marvelous for equality, community, and culture. Yup, that's what Trump's been doing: restraining market capitalism. Yup. Got it. /s
Not sure Trump dropping out (unlikely, given his ego) saves the GOP this year. McConnell is going to allow the unemployment bonus to expire, which will likely lead to untold financial chaos, and his rep (and the party's) as Trump enablers will leave a strong stench.
Also, who runs? Cotton, who recently wrote a universally panned Times op-ed calling for the unpopular idea of calling in the troops on protesters? Haley, who vows to be just as Trumpy as Trump? All Trump dropping out does is create a "GOP in Disarray" narrative that allows them to look more like a weak joke.
If you embrace the concept of the "Flight 93 election," you've abandoned democracy. Its logic is, "my faction needs to rule regardless of the result of any election." If the outcome of the election is favorable, you'll take it, but if not it's preferable to destroy the country. To quote Lincoln's Cooper Union speech, "you will rule or ruin in all events." The Flight 93 election was originally 2016. You guys won that one. Now 2020 is *also* a Flight 93 election. To authoritarians like most Republicans, *every* election from here on out will be a Flight 93 election.
You. Are. Delusional. However, that's a condition you've been in for the past 20 years, so I am sure you're comfortable living in fantasyland, where the sky is green and the grass is blue. And you're certainly still the idiot you've been since forever.
You make so many unfounded assumptions that somehow lead you to the wrong conclusions. The American future that you're so afraid of is already here, and it's not the Apocalypse that you purport it to be.
Interesting post, Mickey. One thing I'd love to hear you explain is why this battle isn't already lost. The writing is on the wall. The entire country will eventually look like California looks today, both demographically (non-Hispanic whites are a minority) and politically (a one-party system, with Republicans only occasionally winning a major election when the Dems really screw up like Gray Davis/Arnold). The 2020 election may be the difference between whether the whole country turns into California in 2035 or 2040, but who really cares? It's all plain to see from the demographics. Once Biden wins the popular vote in November (he's currently a -500 favorite to do so), that will be seven out of eight Presidential elections where the Dems have won the p.v. The Electoral College and the unrepresentative Senate will allow the GOP to hobble along for a couple more decades, but its fate is inevitable. When it comes to immigration, the "Flight 93" election was probably sometime in the 1980s. If you wanted to pick an issue where this really is an important election, it's probably abortion. It's pretty clear that there are four votes to overturn Roe v. Wade, and Justice Ginsburg is 87 years old.
Rich white men are doomed, get used to it. You had power for centuries; you blew it. You have the empathy of a maggot. Too bad your Trump boy turned out to be an idiot criminal. So much for your political judgement. Where is the abject apology?
This says that he's only concerned about White people losing control of the country. Is that correct?
Interesting. I'd heard your name before but never as somebody who is so unhinged - have you always been this way?
Anyway, setting aside the vileness of your objectives you are fatally wrong on tactics and strategy. Expression of weakness coming down the stretch, like dumping one's candidate and grasping about for another, only breaks the morale of your own side and encourages the aggression of the enemy - the anti-trump coalition won't break up until it's had its fill of dunking on trump, whether he's still on the ticket or not. As obl once said when people see a strong horse and a weak horse, they prefer the strong horse. And most republicans will rightly see the betrayal of trump as a betrayal of themselves. If you want to ensure a 400+ EV loss by all means dump trump now. If you want to claim biden doesn't really have a mandate your only choice is to ride trump to the bitter end and hope you can keep things close, or spin events effectively.
And clearly you haven't thought your strategy all the way through. Suppose by some evil miracle you managed to get pence elected, while breaking the morale of the gop. By 2024 you would be out of power in the executive branch and both houses of congress*, and your nightmare scenario would be even more likely. If you fear biden, think how much more you should fear the next democrat, chosen by millenials rather than boomers! Trumpism has rendered both sides more hostile to compromise, and further defiance on your part will only provoke further assertiveness by your enemies. DC and puerto rico, which would have languished indefinitely without a trump presidency, are going to become states within the next 8 years because of him. Democrats who used to be amenable to some level of immigration enforcement (think of all the immigrants obama locked up) will take the "defund them" position that trump prompted re: domestic law enforcement and carry it over to immigration enforcement, where it will likely have greater success. You could have followed karl rove's permanent majority strategy, accepted an immigration compromise and waited for nativeborn latinos to join your coalition, which they naturally would have done without your interference, and had long-term immigration restrictions. But you put that option off the table when you reached for a maximalist strategy.
The only way your strategy works for the long haul is if, accepting david frum's dichotomy, you choose squarely to abandon democracy rather than give up power and establish a dictatorship - accepting your premises your strategy fails if the dems ever come back into power. Having seen some of your work, mickey, I'm now confident that when the time comes you will embrace dictatorship. For that, you need someone like trump.
*Incidentally you can forget about retaining the senate this year. The AZ/CO/ME/MT races are all guaranteed flips at this point thanks to the qualities of their respective candidates, regardless of how things unfold nationally. The senate is actually more likely to flip than the white house at this point.
You are underestimating how much America currently hates ALL Republicans--esp. Senators. Each and every one are seen as "enablers"
And as the death count goes up in the states that opened on a political whim, and when everyone knows that those number are deflated, Republicans will just continue to lose.
Now you understand how the Indians felt.
Yup, four years of Trump have been just marvelous for equality, community, and culture. Yup, that's what Trump's been doing: restraining market capitalism. Yup. Got it. /s
Not sure Trump dropping out (unlikely, given his ego) saves the GOP this year. McConnell is going to allow the unemployment bonus to expire, which will likely lead to untold financial chaos, and his rep (and the party's) as Trump enablers will leave a strong stench.
Also, who runs? Cotton, who recently wrote a universally panned Times op-ed calling for the unpopular idea of calling in the troops on protesters? Haley, who vows to be just as Trumpy as Trump? All Trump dropping out does is create a "GOP in Disarray" narrative that allows them to look more like a weak joke.
If you embrace the concept of the "Flight 93 election," you've abandoned democracy. Its logic is, "my faction needs to rule regardless of the result of any election." If the outcome of the election is favorable, you'll take it, but if not it's preferable to destroy the country. To quote Lincoln's Cooper Union speech, "you will rule or ruin in all events." The Flight 93 election was originally 2016. You guys won that one. Now 2020 is *also* a Flight 93 election. To authoritarians like most Republicans, *every* election from here on out will be a Flight 93 election.
The only question the above raises is who’s more delusional, Trump or Kaus?
I'm impressed by the civility and intelligence expressed in these comments. Thank you all.
You. Are. Delusional. However, that's a condition you've been in for the past 20 years, so I am sure you're comfortable living in fantasyland, where the sky is green and the grass is blue. And you're certainly still the idiot you've been since forever.
You make so many unfounded assumptions that somehow lead you to the wrong conclusions. The American future that you're so afraid of is already here, and it's not the Apocalypse that you purport it to be.
Interesting post, Mickey. One thing I'd love to hear you explain is why this battle isn't already lost. The writing is on the wall. The entire country will eventually look like California looks today, both demographically (non-Hispanic whites are a minority) and politically (a one-party system, with Republicans only occasionally winning a major election when the Dems really screw up like Gray Davis/Arnold). The 2020 election may be the difference between whether the whole country turns into California in 2035 or 2040, but who really cares? It's all plain to see from the demographics. Once Biden wins the popular vote in November (he's currently a -500 favorite to do so), that will be seven out of eight Presidential elections where the Dems have won the p.v. The Electoral College and the unrepresentative Senate will allow the GOP to hobble along for a couple more decades, but its fate is inevitable. When it comes to immigration, the "Flight 93" election was probably sometime in the 1980s. If you wanted to pick an issue where this really is an important election, it's probably abortion. It's pretty clear that there are four votes to overturn Roe v. Wade, and Justice Ginsburg is 87 years old.
Your funny bro. Where have you been ALL my life? Did you just fart?